Outsourcing Firms Reviews
ByContinuing my outsourcing project . . .
As explained previously, I am now looking for a full-time worker rather than just taking someone on, on a per project basis which means that the sites I have used in the past, such as Elance and Guru.com will no longer be suitable for my purposes. What I need now is to shift to sites that display people’s resumes.
I have heard great things about workers from the Philippines so I will start my search there. A few places suggested by John Reese are manila.craigslist.com.ph, Onlinejobs.ph and bestjobs.ph.
These are my thoughts about each . . .
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1. Craigslist
You need to go to the “resumes” section of the site to find people looking for work. However, the majority of listings have been added by people looking for workers rather than the workers themselves.
You often can’t tell from the title whether the ad is by an employer or an employee so you waste time opening listings to find out.
Each ad is individually written with no formal structure so it’s hard to compare like with like. Many don’t have all the information you need to make an informed decision. Required salary is often missing, for example.
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2. Onlinejobs.ph
No “how it works” for employers – only for employees – so you need to really hunt around for the information. But see below for what I was able to discover without signing up.
You can see a good amount of information about each potential worker but you need to join to see contact information.
Prices are:
Monthly Subscription – $49
3 months – $105
12 months – $299
So, to all intents and purposes it will cost you a minimum of $49 to employ a single worker, assuming you can do so within a month.
There are 4 additional options available:
Prefound Workers who have been verified as available for work, have a computer, internet connection, etc, and that they want to work from home for an international company.
Finders fee is $350
Tested Workers who have been verified as above but have also taken specific tests that prove their abilities. A score of 60 and above is considered quite good so you are able to compare workers on specific skill areas.
Finders fee is $800
“Done For You” service
For this service they will:
- Recruit multiple potential employees.
- Administer a test with each potential person.
- Work out salary details.
- Figure out employment details (part/full-time, daily hours worked, internet/computer access, start date, …).
- Manage their expectations in working for you.
- Make sure they don’t just quit on you.
- Make sure you’re up and running with an employee who will work for you.
Cost is $800.
University Recruiting Service
With this option you are trading experience for pay. Candidates are university graduates who have not worked before but salaries start at as little as $100 per month. One advantage with this service is you get to teach the person your way of doing things but, obviously, that needs to be balanced by the extra time it will take to get up to speed.
You are able to specify:
- What kind of worker you would like, e.g. “general”, “admin”, “graphics”
- What specific tasks you will you be giving this person
- What skills you would like to see in this person when they start
- Full-time (40 hours a week) or Part-time (20 hrs/week)
Cost is $200 for each person recruited.
Payment is by Paypal and Credit Card.
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3. Bestjobs.ph
– Update as of 31.5.10 – as far as I can tell this service is not available to US and UK subscribers. The free ad definitely isn’t and I suspect the paid service isn’t either. However, they have not replied to my emails so I can’t say for certain.
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You can carry out a resume search by a number of criteria including job category, e.g. marketing and sales, clerical and administration, by resume date and by keywords to give you an idea of candidates in the database.
The resume search search is free but you will need to log-in to access the full details.
This is the information you have access to without registering:
Resume reference:
Date last updated:
Education:
Experience:
Employment situation:
Salary expectations:
Availability:
Type of employment:
Location:
Looking to work in:
Age:
Gender:
Marital status:
Own transport:
Driver’s license:
Citizenship:
Right to work:
English level:
Filipino level:
Free Registration and Basic Service
Offers unlimited job adverts on the website “which gets thousands of visitors every day”.
All vacancies are distributed for free by email to “thousands of job-seekers” who are subscribed to their distribution list.
A Business profile page will be created displaying your business details and list of vacancies, which will be included in the employer directory.
Advanced service
Includes all the features included in the basic service, plus unlimited access to full resumes in the database with contact details.
Also, your vacancies will be highlighted over the rest and they will rank higher on every search.
Costs
- 3 months - 5000 pesos (approx 45 pesos to the US$)
- 6 months - 10000 pesos
- 12 months - 20000 pesos
Payment is by credit or debit card or International bank transfer.
Basic and Advanced Services Compared
The main difference between the paid for advanced service and the free one is that you get access to each candidate’s contact details so you can get in touch with them directly. With the basic service you are reliant on potential candidates responding to your ad.
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From what I’ve discovered I’m going to start with bestjobs.ph and give the free ad a go.
Next Step is to clarify exactly what I’m looking for and then write an ad.
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Hi Gillian,
This is the first time I’ve come across your little blog here. I haven’t read any of your other posts yet except for this one. Thank you for doing a little comparison work on the outsourcing methods.
I’ve actually sent an e-mail to two possible people I found on craigslist who had a small resume on there saying they want to do some link building work.
Since I’d been thinking it would be nice to outsource some tedious busy-work anyway, I thought I’d take a shot and see what happens. So far no success. Neither person responded to my little job offers which were: onetime job for x amount of dollars. and then if things go well, expand from there and maybe eventually get to full time. But anyway, so far I haven’t made it happen. Nobody responded.
I knew there were other routes to explore but haven’t had a chance to get into any of them and try them out yet.
That is why your post here is very useful for me that you’ve sort of laid out some of the different ways a person could go about finding an inexpensive worker and started to compare the different aspects of the different services.
Now that I’ve seen this, I think I’m going to try the bestjobs.ph free service and see if I can put up a little advert there and get anyone to respond that they’d like to work.
I’m not in Ed Dale’s mentoring program, but I’ve downloaded all of the itunes videos of the 30dc and I’ve watched them all at least once and some of them more than once. A very valuable course. I’m now a big time Ed Dale fan. Probably if I had some cash laying around I’d even buy some of his other courses and go attend his seminars.
I’ve recently seen a couple of internet gurus launching new outsourcing how to products/services. The first one I saw was a couple of months back from some guy I think his name was John Jonas. His little thing was called ‘duplicate yourself’ or something like that. Then of course recently the John Reese group of about three or four videos came out. His is called ‘outsource force’. Both of those guys have me convinced it would be a good idea to outsource the daily routine tasks of internet marketing.
Anyway, thanks for the comparison work. Now I’m going to go and hunt around on your blog and see if there’s any other good stuff on here.
Ethan
Hi Ethan
Thanks for taking the time to leave your detailed comment. I’m in the process of adding a new post regarding bestjobs.ph free service as I tried them, without success, over the weekend.
I got my ad together and posted it but when I logged in the next day to change a couple of details I found that my account had been deleted. I think John Reese mentioned in his video interview with Ed that you might not be able to use this service from the US. As I’m in the UK I thought I’d give it a go. I emailed support but, as yet, have had no reply. I’d be really interested to hear how you get on.
Gillian